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FEATURE|Hideto Iwai and Kazuko Uemoto, photographer. Is there an ideal form for a family?

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It's a family affair.

Hideto Iwai and Kazuko Uemoto, photographer, HighBai . Is there an ideal form for a family?

Hideto Iwai, the leader of the theater company "High Bye," has sublimated his experiences of violence by his father and his own experiences as a recluse into theatrical works, as he has publicly stated. Kazuko Uemoto has written about her true feelings in three books: "Work it ECD - My Chaotic Child-rearing Journey", which describes her daughter's life (with a family book), "Kananai", which describes the following five years, and "Kazuko Uemoto: The Last Day of Family", which touches on the conflict with her mother and the suicide of her brother-in-law. Although the two have never been involved with each other before, they have one thing in common: they both write about their families (and the real world around them). In their conversation, we caught a glimpse of a new perspective that could be seen as a source of salvation.

  • Photo_Ryo Mitamura
  • Interview&Text_Satoru Kanai
  • Edit_Shinri Kobayashi

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Hideto Iwai
Born June 25, 1974, in Koganei City, Tokyo . After graduating from Toho Gakuen School of Drama in 2001, he became involved in Naoto Takenaka's group "Gekko no tsutsumi" as an understudy in November 2002, and got to know spoken word theater for the first time. The following year, in February 2003, he launched HI-BYE. Since then, he has written, directed, and occasionally performed in all of High Bye's productions, and has been a member of Seinendan's directing department since 2007. 2012: Winner of the 30th Kuniko Mukoda Award for the NHK BS Premium drama "Sono to Sono Koto no Koto" , 2013: Winner of the 57th Kishida Kunio Drama Award for "A Woman", and 2012: Winner of the Kishida Kunio Drama Award for "Theatrical Theatre".

Ichiko Uemoto
Born in Hiroshima, Japan in 1984, he began his career as a photographer in 2003 when he won the Nobuyoshi Araki Award for Excellence at the Canon New Cosmos of Photography. . He is active in a wide range of fields, including advertising, magazines, CD jackets, and music videos. He is the author of "Work ECD - My Childcare Chaos Diary" (Music Magazine), "Kananai" (Taba Books), and "Kazoku no Owari Hi" (The Last Day of Family) (Ota Publishing Co., Ltd.). He is currently writing a series of articles entitled "24 Hours 365 Days" for Bungei (Kawade Shobo Shinsha).http://ichikouemoto.com/

In advance, we had given the two artists DVDs of their respective works - "Kananai" to Iwai and "Te" (Te) to Uemoto from their High-Bye 10th Anniversary National Tour - as well as several past interviews with each other. I wondered if they were interested in each other's works and personalities. I ordered a drink in a private room of a coffee shop, thinking of the pessimistic thought that might come to my mind if the other person did not accept my work. . I realize that my fears are unfounded. The two, who had never met before, were already enjoying themselves as if they were old acquaintances.

People who touch the works and start telling their own stories.

. today, I wondered what it would be like to have a dialogue between two people who both focus on the theme of family.

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Oh, the chemistry .

Yes . I just couldn't sleep since yesterday . Because both of you said that you didn't know each other's work. ......

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds). I was also thinking, "What if it's not interesting? But "Te" was great, and "Hickey Sotoni De Temitano" was also interesting.

rockI haven't read it properly yet , .......

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Yes . Okay, good, good.

rockI can't read books. My ability to read text is very poor. I have lived without reading books for a long time.

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)But you're writing (a novel), right?

rockYes, I do. I don't like to watch theater at all, but I like to create. Have you read any books so far?

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Books of interest are.

rockOh, I see . Then you read a lot as far as quantity.

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Oh no , but I think you are biased.

rockThere are writings by people who really like books, you know . That kind of thing is not good.

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Oops .

rockNo, no, no , that's not what I meant. No , I couldn't read it simply because I didn't have enough time. What can I say, the center of gravity . I think the proper order is to put the earnestness of what you want to write into words, but if you are more concerned about decorating the earnestness than the earnestness itself, I really want to throw away your writing right away.

all of us( lol )

rockI'm really sick of it. I'm like, "Don't start singing and dancing.

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)I've been really liking Tetsuwari (Albatrossket) lately. Mr. Inui followed me on Twitter. I thought it was a mistake and sent him a DM, and he said, "No, no, I read your books and I like you , too. You came to see my last performance, didn't you?" . That was the first time I heard from him. That was the first time I read Mr. Inui's book. That was really interesting. It was easy to read, with parts that were like Tetsuwari. I don't read novels.

rockWhat do you read? What else besides novels?

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Essays, non-fiction, docs . I'm not good at making things.

rockI like Matsuo Suzuki very much, and what I like most is his essays. Yes, I can read his essays. Yes, I can read essays, that's for sure. What I wanted to ask you today is, have you ever met and talked with someone who has read your book?

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Is it a dialogue or something?

rockI wondered what kind of things he talked about with his readers, including the dialogue, as a person who lives an ordinary life.

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Eh . But, you know, it's a lot of things. . there are those who encourage me. But there are those who attack me. The most intense was when someone sent me an e-mail saying, "I used to be a great fan, but I'm glad I didn't become a mother like you. I guess that's because people only say nice things about me on talk shows.

rockAnd it's face to face.

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Oh, yeah . That one, I don't do that anymore, do I? Ego-searching.

rockHave you stopped?

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Yeah . I was scared (laughs).

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rockI see. I see that . But the part where the person reacted is probably the part where anyone would react a bit, including maybe hitting a child or something.

I had been writing about myself, and I was surprised at how many people received my writings. So I decided that other people could do it, too, and I am doing a series called "We, the People" in which I gather actors and ordinary people, ask them about the worst things that have happened to them, and turn their stories into theatrical pieces.

For example, ...... I did a story in Nagasaki about a father and daughter who didn't get along very well. The daughter came to the workshop, and the father was a terrible alcoholic, and she had grown up being mounted all the time. The daughter grew up to be an adult, went out into the world, and decided to get married a while later. When she went to her parents' house to at least say hello, the father was a complete idiot and didn't even take her seriously.

."When I asked him to please come to the wedding without drinking, he looked at me like I was a man who had not been home much and was suddenly talking big, so he finally lost his temper and said something like, "I have been patient all this time. He said, "I've been patient all this time," and other things he had never said before. Then, that night, I think, he stopped coming home.

Later, when the wives in the neighborhood were having a well-wishers' meeting . . it was near the sea in Sasebo, and there is a gutter that leads to the sea. On a cold winter morning, something floated down the open part of the ditch lid. It's by the ocean, so it ebbs and flows. Something is coming and going.

."What is it? I looked and saw "Who's your father here", and they found him. So, the night of the disappearance, the security camera showed only the image of him buying a cup of wine at a convenience store. After that, I wondered if he was so inebriated that he just fell off, or if his daughter was in no small part affected by what he said. Since the other participants' stories were not that heavy, I thought, "I don't know, but I've heard it, so there's nothing I can do about it," and in a cheerful tone, I said, "Okay, then, I'll turn Aima's story into a play.

all of us(Laughter).

rock. "I'll give you 30 minutes, so make two teams. One is the team with the parties involved . The other is a team without parties." Well, both teams produced very interesting works. The fight scene was very realistic, and everyone cried, including me, but we had to be creative in the sewer scene, so the "One team" had a 16-year-old boy play the father.

So it was soooo funny, but I was worried, and when I glanced at the person who told me, he was giggling. When we went to a pub afterwards to talk, he said, "I almost couldn't tell anyone about it because I kept thinking that I had indirectly encouraged my father's death. Not that that has changed, but it was a lot of fun." He blurted out something like that. I know it's a bit of a misnomer to say, but I thought that the meaning of theater and what I do is that I can add a different meaning to those memories later on.

For example, a very young guy played the role of a father and slid desperately on the floor, or people desperately asked me how I was doing at the time, or some other experience pulled in from the outside was added, and what I had thought of as a sin became multifaceted. I feel that this is very interesting and meaningful.

For example, when we did "Te", the audience suddenly started talking about their own past. Until then, I had been thinking about how interesting it would be as a play, but the time spent thinking about the lives of people who are actually alive, who had only seen things from their own perspective, and wondering what they meant when they said those things, was a much richer experience. .

So I feel that Uemoto's book also has a very strong function of forcing the reader to reflect on his or her own life and his or her own reality in any way.

My sister once told me, "I once wanted to throw my child at the TV because he wouldn't stop crying. I thought that was a great thing to say, but it was only when I heard that that I finally realized that mothers can go to such lengths when raising children. My wife also said, "Oh, but I certainly feel that way.

I'm implicitly told not to show it, because I think "wtf?" the moment I hear about it, but I'm thinking that the time I spend thinking, "Well, why is that? Something like that ...... .

That's a very sudden summary (laughs).

rockSo, you know, please write a lot of these (Uemoto-san's books). Really .

garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Oh, I understand , sir. Ah .

. the relationship between Mr. Uemoto and your mother is probably more like the relationship between me and my father."
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