Perhaps it is important to speak in one's own words.
You both have a flat perspective, just like the younger generation. You both honestly say that what you find interesting is interesting.
Kagami:It means I'm an adult who can't grow up (laughs).
Kaji:But when it comes to personalities around me, I think it's Ken.
All:LOL!
Kaji:Because that's what's interesting about Ken. That's what's interesting about Ken.
When I applied for an interview, you responded very quickly to my e-mail and were very polite in your reply.
Kaji:He's got kids and he's doing it right. But he has a unique sensibility. I like the range of their sensibilities. We do things while paying attention to etiquette and such. You can't put such manners into words.
Kagami:Neither Kaji nor I have been flirtatious for 20 years. We may get involved with such people, but we don't pout, but on the other hand, we don't flirt either. Is that why they don't approach us?
I'm sure it's hard to control. I think the more you go to the main stage, the more you want to create something complete and seamless. But in the case of the two of you, you try to create something that goes beyond the framework.
Kagami:They don't like frameworks and they don't like control. Maybe they want to make a quick buck by putting me in a framework. If I'm trying to make clothes by writing fashionable words, I'm tempted to write lame words.
Kaji:For example, there are clothes that are so perfect, right? Clothes that, if you wear them, you don't need to match them with anything else. But in that sense, "SANCÉ SANCÉ" is not 100-point clothing. In the past, people used to pay for completed clothes, but nowadays, I think it is more fun to play with unfinished clothes. The point is the margins.
I think it was like that when Ken and I were students. There were only one or two fashionable people in our grade. Fashion was a hobby for those who really liked it. That's why there were unique clothing stores. But in the past 20 years, anyone can be fashionable. I think fast fashion has had a big influence. In a sense, the saturation of the market has caused some people to lose interest in clothes, while others have started to pursue their own unique fashion style. In other words, I feel like we are going back to the old days.
Do you have a style that has evolved over the years? Or have you not changed at all from the past, and are you still on the same path?
Kagami:Isn't that a consequence?
Kaji:Yes, I agree. People tend to think of it as sensual, but I think everyone has a logic to their clothes. I enjoy unraveling that logic for myself. It's a mixture of many things, and that's where I am now.
But I think many people lose sight of their own logic.
Kaji:There are people who serve as benchmarks, right? In my case, for example, that would be Ken and my friends. As I said, if you are on your own, you will lose sight of things. If you become self-absorbed, you will be left behind, and if you become too stubborn, you may become different. I have Ken and his friends, and I have established a society and community with them, and I think that by putting myself in that community, I am able to look at myself from a bird's eye view.
I see that the unit of credit is not "myself" but "society," which broadens my perspective.
Kagami:It's not interesting unless there are people who can relate to it. It doesn't have to be the majority.
Kaji:There was a time when I walked around naked, wore studded belts, and leather pants. But the basics have not changed. I've been wearing baseball caps for a long time. I'm from the generation that started with American casual and wore jeans.
Kagami:If you're really interesting, you're sure to be attractive even when you're naked.
Kaji:That is why it is important to speak in one's own words. Both Ken and I are influenced by various people, but in the end, we chew them up and communicate them in our own words.
Kagami:I agree. In the end, fashionistas, influencers, and celebrities all seem to be sending out messages in cliques. It's not an individual effort, but a collective effort. Maybe it's great to be able to make friends in this way, but I hope it doesn't become flimsy when it comes to individuals.
Kaji:I agree. It is important what you can say when people say they want to hear your voice, not everyone else's. It is important that you can define yourself with confidence. It is important to be able to define yourself with confidence.
Send out the message in your own words. This is also the third note.
Kagami:Cool people are cool, what they do.
Kaji:Also, it takes courage to send out the message. There is also the risk of failure.
