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I have a question for Mr. Kagami and Mr. Kaji. What do you mean by "cool"?
What is Cool?

I have a question for Mr. Kagami and Mr. Kaji.
What do you mean by "cool"?

Ken Kagami, a contemporary artist, and Yuta Kaji, a stylist and director of the fashion brand "SANSE SANSE," have been friends for a long time. The two have a flat perspective on everything, do not flatter anyone, and maintain their own unique stance, which is very cool. They are not just trying to be strange, but they have a clear meaning and make sense. We asked these two to talk about what they mean by "cool. Kagami-san speaks in a more serious (?) tone than usual. Kagami and Kaji's answers, spoken in an unusually serious (?) tone, were like the kind of pride one wants to have as a person of expression.

We're so hard-core! (Kaji)

So, you are saying that we need to have the courage to be criticized.

Kaji:I agree. You have to be prepared. But I think that by taking that first step, there will be people who like your guts.

Kagami:But not many people want to do that.

Kaji:For example, in the case of food, it is required to say that the food was produced on a farm, but this is not the case in the case of fashion. Recently, there are signs that say "sustainable," but it is necessary to enjoy what kind of cause they are doing it for as one of the options. However, if it becomes philosophical and difficult, it will be difficult to make a punchline.

Kagami:That goes for art, too.

I guess it is necessary to have a sense of humor, or something like a blank space.

Kaji:It's also a matter of having a good sense of how to communicate. People think that Ken and I are too loose.

Kagami:I get told so much, "You're so loose". Is loose a compliment? Do they think I'm a loose character?

Kaji:We're insanely hardcore!

All:LOL!

How can we improve our sense of style? Is it something that can be acquired by continuing to do something?

Kaji:I'm not set on continuing to do it. But I do enjoy getting older. Growing old is a negative thing, but it also allows me to see and do things. I try not to be pessimistic about it, and live my life in a way that makes it more enjoyable every day. If you don't give back the benefits of aging, you won't be fulfilled.

Kagami:I like to be funny, and I pursue that every day. But I don't mean that in the sense of comedy; for me, interesting = cool. So interesting people are cool, and cool people are interesting. All my good friends are interesting and cool.

Kaji:You are always updating your work. As we get older, we tend to go in more and more difficult directions, but Ken is very flexible and has a gentle way of communicating.

Kagami:I just don't think about it (laughs).

Kaji:Isn't that one talent? Because many people become more and more difficult, philosophical, or isolated. Of course, I think some people want to be like that.

Kagami:I couldn't study, so I'm here now.

Kaji:Then maybe I'm here now because I wasn't popular.

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