Birthplace: Shiga Prefecture
Name: Mr. M
Occupation/Age: Model , 27 years old
After all, that's what the foundation is all about.
Kaji:Ah, there is actually something I wanted to ask M-chan today....
Kaji:I'm Kaji, and I'm pleased to meet you again, but I've been connected with M-chan on Instagram, so I feel like I know her, but in fact I don't know her.
M:I can't really decide on the best one - there is a movie, and then there is music, and they are all connected. The entrance, for example, is part of a book, in which the film is discussed, or a song in which the film is discussed, and so on. There are different ways to enter.
Kaji:When you were little?
M:When I was little, it was books , I read books all the time.
Kaji:Surprisingly, it's all been overturned here.
M:And I was shy.
Kaji:I used to work exclusively for a magazine, and I was pretty high up in the hierarchy. I imagined that if I had spent my youth in an active manner, I would have been there before I knew it.
M:I'm slowly making more friends, but when I play alone, I tend to read.
Kaji:How did you originally become a model?
M:I was scouted by a scout when I happened to be in Kobe, and I realized that there was such a world out there. That was when I was 16 years old, in high school.
Kaji:Did that exclusive magazine help you get your name out there?
M:I was 18 years old when I moved to Tokyo, and of course I wanted to stand out from other models. Then I found out that there was a modeling agency and that some models were affiliated with magazines, and I thought that is the kind of work I wanted to do. The taste of the magazines I worked exclusively for was far from my normal lifestyle.
Kaji:I had an image that you hold for your exclusive models, but after talking to them, it's possible I'm wrong.
M:I think it can be interesting because it is the other way around. . I thought that if I involved my personal side, I could express both sides.
Kaji:I was aware that M-chan was a model, but I thought on my own that the rest of her work seemed interesting. But what kind of transmission of that other part would be required for that to happen?
M:I guess I was straightforward and straightforward about what I liked, and there were a few people who saw that. However, I never had the opportunity to present what I liked, and I was never able to do so. I guess I express myself more when I am given the opportunity to do so.
Kaji:When I got to know M-chan, I realized that she likes the details of maniacal things, which is interesting because it's not easy to find a cute girl who can reach that level. After modeling and being interested in various things, did you ever think of shifting your focus to acting, for example?
M:There was, but the results didn't come at the time I thought they would. I was convinced at the time that now was not the time to change my place.
Kaji:Not out of love, but because I felt like taking it one step further. Including that, what role do movies, books, and music play in your life?
M:It may sound weird, and I am a romantic, but there comes a moment in my daily life when the path I usually walk looks different. I like to notice small things, like how the smell is different today, or how the grass has grown longer than it did yesterday. I like the feeling of being able to put myself in the shoes of the protagonist of the film and see the story from his/her perspective.
Kaji:What is your favorite movie of all time? If someone asked you, "What is your favorite movie of all time?" what would you simply say? Simple.
M:In the last three years or so, I've become addicted to Yasujiro Ozu.
Kaji:You've been there , even the recent one in a single theater.
M:I still watch films like Paul Thomas Anderson, and I like their unusual and flashy developments and action, but after watching Yasujiro Ozu, I began to feel an obvious sympathy for him, as if he were saying, "This is what I want to know about various things, but in the end, that is the foundation. I want to know all kinds of things, but in the end, that's the foundation of what I want to know, and I feel a little enlightened. That is romantic.
Also, I was about 20 years old when I started working exclusively with the company, and I was a bit more of a misanthrope than I am now. At that time, I was watching movies like Juzo Itami.
Kaji:Heh! That's pretty precocious.
M:It's a bit of a twisted perspective, I guess.
Kaji:. there has to be a trigger, right? You may have heard the name of it somewhere, but there must be a reason for you to take a chance on it. There must be a reason for you to get involved with something today or tomorrow, right? I wonder what the criteria were for M-chan to choose Juzo Itami at that time of her life.
M:If I'm curious, I'll want to look it up and watch it right then and there, so I guess that's it.
Kaji:I don't know if I am a romantic or not, but there are various kinds of romanticism. I think "True Romance" is a romantic story, and within it, there is stillness and movement, both of which have their roots in the same thing. What do you consider to be the representative of a romantic film?
M:I don't know...I don't watch that much, ugh. Ah, but...ah...there is a drama I like by Yuji Sakamoto...oh, a movie.
Kaji:What I'm leading up to is a movie , but it's a process. I can use anything as material.
M:The Fruits of Life .
Kaji:Grandfather and grandmother, in Nagano?
M:There is a book, and his wife wrote it , and it's so good.
Kaji:What kind of romantic? A married couple?
M:Romantic. They are a couple who understand each other very well, and they have love not only in the way they look at other people, but also in the way they look at things. It's a kind of love that doesn't ask for anything in return. Also, I like Ken Loach!
Kaji:You romanticize a rather powerful piece of work. . you know, Ken Loach's work is also a movie, but there are parts of it that aren't a movie. What do you like about Ken Loach?
M:Eh, already, where there is a lot of family talk.
Kaji:I guess a story that is realistic is more truthful and easier to get across.
M:But I also like David Lynch. That one I can't think of myself, I can get imagination. It's a bit crazy, isn't it?
M:Mosquitoes are super.
Kaji:Are there super mosquitoes?
M:Wow, I was stung while I wasn't looking... (laughs).
Kaji:By the way, some of the things I just talked about can't be talked about unless we share some of the things we like with each other, right? Not all people usually talk about such things. You never know if someone likes movies or not.
Kaji:Somehow, selfishly, I also decided to do nothing today, not to play face to face. I was anxious about that, too, because it was my first time. So, I had my own image of what I wanted to propose, and whether it would be a good fit. In terms of styling, I had several pieces hanging on the rack in my mind. I'm trying to sift through them and see which one I should choose, even though a different one might suddenly appear. . I'm trying to sift through them, and I need a few more words.
M:(Chuckles)
Kaji:By the way, what was your favorite thing you saw last year , 2022?
M:(thinks with phone out)
Kaji:I'm making sure I'm writing it down.
M:The best - but I went to see a movie by Yasujiro Ozu called "Autumn Sunshine" in Yokohama . It was at a place like an art museum. I had only seen the movie on TV before, so when I saw it in a theater, I was curious to see what kind of people were around. The husband of the elderly couple in front of me was asleep about 10 minutes into the show, and the wife said, "You know, it's only just started. I thought that was really nice. I wondered what was the difference between the points at which I laughed and the points at which they laughed, even though we were watching the same movie and in the same environment. I felt that it was a difference in age or generation, which was a new experience for me. I usually go to the movies alone, but that time I went with a senior who likes Yasujiro Ozu, and we went out for drinks at an izakaya on the way home, and the whole day was very Yasujiro Ozu-like.
Kaji:My parents had a villa in Tateshina, Nagano, and Yasujiro Ozu's villa, Mugeisho, was nearby. Since I was born in Tokyo and live in Meguro, I thought it would be better for me to know about nature, so I visited the villa only during summer and winter. Ozu wrote his screenplay in the same environment, and I have seen the scenery before, so I don't feel that it is so unusual, but M-chan's best memory of last year was of Ozu's movies.
M:The movie was good, of course, but the back and forth was good and memorable.
Kaji:I know that a movie is a movie and not a movie, but I asked you about your future in a vague way earlier, but do you have any more trivial problems, such as daily stresses that you can't help, things that you don't like, or problems that you don't feel big enough to talk about with others? Do you have any?
M:I recently noticed something strange about myself, I keep having conversations in my head. It's my voice, or it's not my voice, and my worries and thoughts keep going around and around, and I don't get to the point where I'm worried and depressed and negative.
Kaji:I guess I haven't broken it down into problems because all the fantasies, fun and worries don't fall into place. Is there anything that stonks you when you watch a movie? Like, was it a turning point for you because you saw this movie at this time?
M:Ghibli, I guess. I have a video of it at home, and there are picture books and such, and I don't know why I liked it at that time, even though the characters are not so cute. I don't know why I liked it at the time. The characters weren't even cute, but I thought it was probably because I enjoyed seeing the world in a way that a child couldn't understand. It's amazing to watch Ghibli now , Hayao Miyazaki. . I think it's romantic to think that the same movie can be good for decades.
Kaji:You mean you first encountered Ghibli around elementary school?
M:Yes . . like the Friday Roadshow, and my dad burned it on video.
Kaji:Are there any movies that are tied to clothes or fashion?
M:(Thinking)
M:I wonder...
Kaji:Not much? Not much that you can think of right off the bat?
M:. I like Juzo Itami, but.... Oh, there is this omnibus movie called "SURVIVE STYLE 5+" with Tadanobu Asano, Kakion, and others, which was super good in the art field. It's really weird. They spent a lot of money on art and costumes, and the stylist is a genius or something, and it was interesting to see it on film.
Kaji:Is it easier to remember something that has a corner somewhere in it as a work of art... No, I like Ozu too, so I like both the basic and the weird. How often do you watch them?
M:I try to watch one film a day, but some days, like today, when we shoot all day, I can't, and some days I watch 2 or 3 films a day.
Kaji:Do you like going to the theater?
M:Going to the theater, I love it .
Kaji:What is your favorite movie theater?
M:Like Meguro Cinema. Recently, I went to see Katsuhiro Otomo's "Memories. The movie changes every week, so I check the schedule at the beginning of the week and decide who is playing this week's movie.
Kaji:M-chan, do you have a roadmap for the next step? I feel like you have a little more freedom now that you have graduated from being a full-time employee.
M:Intention...
Kaji:. It's a bit of a big deal when I say purpose.
M:When I go to the movie theater, I would get tickets online if I could make a reservation the day before. This creates an environment where you absolutely have to go. I try to create such an environment, but recently, I had a day off tomorrow, so I decided to go see a movie and made a reservation. When I was checking the route to go the next day, I thought I had booked a theater in Futakotamagawa, but it turned out to be in Tachikawa. I made a mistake. I had to leave the house in 5 minutes, so I went to Tachikawa just to watch a movie at ......, had a drink alone, and came back home. . But I want to be able to keep thinking, "This happened one day, but it was kind of fun. . I think that's the lesson I'm trying to teach myself, and I think it's an opportunity for me to think that way.
Kaji:I could understand M-chan's level of happiness and the importance of her life. I could see that she must be enjoying her life in this way.
M:. I had no choice but to take responsibility for my own actions.
Kaji:I'm super torn right now, and on the one hand, I want to be close to your answer, but I think you can probably catch it. I think I'll get to what I'm proposing eventually. At the same time, I've been doing some prep work, and there's one that I was going to say, and I have some of it lingering in my head, but I still want to make that my final recommendation. Okay?
M:Please tell me, by all means!
Kaji:So...are you interested in Okinawa?
M:Yes , I would like to go.
Kaji:Have you been there recently?
M:I went last year , to play.
Kaji:It's a movie called "Summer Sister" . Do you have siblings?
M:Oh, I'm not here ...... No, I have a younger brother and an older brother. I made it look like I'm not there (laughs).
Kaji:Brother and brother!
M:(While looking it up on his phone) Nagisa Oshima.
Kaji:Have you ever seen Nagisa Oshima?
M:Nagisa Oshima for Berlin and Merry Christmas at the Battlefield .
Kaji:Last month I saw a Nagisa Oshima special at the Kyobashi Film Center. It happened to be a month-long special, and I saw "Natsu no Imouto (Summer Sister)," and when I got there, there were grandparents everywhere, and the images were more erotic than I expected. I don't mean that the action was erotic, but the tension in the film was erotic.
M:Like between?
Kaji:. as well as in between, and the length of the skirt. It wasn't that I could see it .
M:Like it might look sexy depending on how you think about it?
Kaji:It's not that the act itself is realistic, but that the action before the act looks graphic, or maybe there were scenes where they were undressing, but it's not about the nudity. Moreover, there were quite a few guests, and when there were erotic scenes in the movie, they were embarrassed that they felt that way.
M:I feel like I'm fidgeting.
Kaji:Yes, like I don't want people to think I'm erotic.
M:(Laughter).
Kaji:It's not a sexual act, but a woman's raw legs. It's a simple everyday scene, but it has a strange realism to it, and we take it as a graphic scene.
M:Nice rawness.
Kaji:It just happened to be 1972, the year Okinawa was returned to Japan from the U.S. It is a story of a man and a woman who lived in Okinawa that year. It's just an ordinary and unusual film. The fact that an extraordinary film, like an ordinary film, was made in 1972, an important year for Japan, makes it interesting to watch over time. It is interesting to watch it after the passage of time.
The girls there are strangely raw. . and I don't know how good the actresses and actors are. I don't know what good acting is.
M:I think that's a good thing, because I won't be able to watch it .
Kaji:Nagisa Oshima's cast, perhaps for budgetary reasons, is often a bit of a mystery, and some of the people in his casts are not quite who they say they are. In that film, the two main actors are girls, but because they are professionals, I felt a sense of reality, and that was the link with M-chan. They seem to be in a medium, but they are not, and I wondered where they wanted to go from here.
M:. the conflict.
Kaji:I felt the energy of wondering where it would lead, and I wanted to recommend it to the world, and I also thought that if I had the opportunity to shoot such a film, it would be someone like M-chan who I would want to be in it. That was in my mind from the beginning, and if I had the opportunity to film something like that, it would be nice to have someone like M-chan in it.
I don't think it will be of any particular use, but I hope it will be something that will help me in my future activities. I don't know what I enjoyed about the film, but it is that kind of film that will have meaning later on.
Kaji:Let me recommend another one, even though it's a foul thing to do. It's called "Earth Symphony". . This is a bit of a cliché, but it's an added bonus. It's a documentary, but it's part of a series, and the third or fourth in the series is about a photographer, Michio Hoshino. I went to Alaska because of that.
M:I like it!
Kaji:. it's a good movie too, so watch it. I think it is 4 or 5. The director passed away last year, but at first it was at a community center, not a movie theater, and people who liked the film caught it and went. That's how I found out about it.
M:I like animal-related things a lot.
Kaji:There are bears out there , and mountains in Alaska. You like to climb mountains, don't you?
M:Yes, I want to go to Alaska! A friend of mine went there recently , Alaska.
Kaji:If it was via Seoul, it would be like 9 hours.
M:I think you need a guide for that, don't you?
Kaji:Maybe in the mountains or something, but I went down to the capital and went to Hairbanks, where Mr. Hoshino was living. You know that magazine called "Spectator"? They did a feature on Alaska in it , and it's good too.
M:Look for it on Mercury.
Kaji:I brought it with me at the time. I also asked him to watch the movie. Thanks , long story.
M:It's my pleasure!
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Ms. M was a model, MIU!
instagram:@_miugram_
Film "Summer Sister" (1972)
Director: Nagisa Oshima
Cast: Hiromi Kurita, Masatsugu Ishibashi, Lily, etc.
Birthplace: Saitama Prefecture
Name: Mr. O
Occupation/Age: Stylist , 37 years old
I like the fact that they don't seem to actually be in town, but they are.
Kaji:It's been a long time , since the film festival.
O:Yes, it is.
O:I used to look at Mr. Kaji's writings and such, so I wondered if I would be a character in them (laughs). In a sense, I imagined it on my own.
Kaji:You are really paying attention to me, aren't you?
O:I liked the snapshots and thought the photos were cool, and when I saw the credits, I realized that they were made by the same person. At that time, there were no websites, so I read a lot.
Kaji:Are there any particular magazines you read?
O:. men's street magazines like "smart" or "Boon" or something like that.
Kaji:We had a talk show once, Nagahata-san, O-kun, and I. After that, I had an image of O-kun appearing in "FRUiTS" and other magazines. Was that one of the main reasons for you to get involved in this kind of work?
O:Yes, that's right. My current style is more documentary-like, and I prefer photographs that look as if they are not actually in the city, but are. I felt the same way about Mr. Kaji.
Kaji:It's not too very fashionable, but where do you draw the line?
O:I brought friends, not foreign models, and I was influenced by so-called fashion photographers, or writers, or something like that in terms of photography.
Kaji:I'm very happy. It may be a bit of a stretch to say that this is becoming the standard these days, but it's not easy to propose something like that and have a precedent, so it took a lot of energy to get people to recognize it in the beginning, looking back on it now. It was for my own sake that I did it, but I would be very happy if it had been a catalyst for something in O-kun's life.
Kaji:As you mentioned earlier, "Honeycomb" was the catalyst for our relationship, and how old were you at that time?
O:10 years ago or 26,7 years old .
Kaji:How old are you now?
O:37 years old.
Kaji:How about 37?
O:In my 20s, I didn't have much work, so I quit my job as an assistant right away, and it was a difficult time for me. In my 30s, I was finally able to say what I wanted to say, and the girls who had been working with me moved up, and we were able to work together with the same generation.
I originally wanted to be a film stylist, but my field changed a bit with Corona, and I started to work more on films rather than fashion magazines.
Kaji:Corona was a chance for me to reach a place that I had been looking for an extension of myself. Movies are not reality, and they are both fiction and non-fiction, so I think it is just the right balance for you as a fashion field. Have your feelings changed?
O:No, it's not. In my fashion magazine, it is all about fashion. But in film, you start from the setting, so I have only worked on films with original stories, but when I tried it, I found that I had a lot of freedom. The director also gives me a lot of freedom. However, there are some films that have a specific period or setting, and I have to work toward that, which is something I haven't been able to do yet. It's a learning experience.
Kaji:I'm not good at studying, and I don't study fashion either. I haven't come this far without being diligent, but I'm the type of person who can't study when I feel like I have to. . So I end up studying things other than studying. In terms of fashion, there are many areas where studying is important, but there are also areas where not studying is important, and the balance between the two is different for each person.
O:There are rules for stage greetings for actors, aren't there? There are times when I bump into them because I don't know them. . When you are in a situation where you are interacting with society, that suddenly becomes clear.
Kaji:It's about suppressing your ego and becoming reserved, isn't it? When you think about what the purpose of styling is, the standard is not you, right? Perhaps it is because I am getting older that I can say this, but I guess I have come to enjoy striking a balance.
O:I have been ignoring it for a long time, but that is no longer the case, and I am starting to see it in a positive light.
Kaji:Is it a matter of age , or is it a matter of perspective?
O:I think it's the vision.
Kaji:In this case, what was originally fashion has changed in various places, and a new standard has been set. It's like a hybrid of the first and second seasons, like a combination of the first two and the third. I thought it was a good thing that studying didn't end with studying. Studying and getting a score is not the end of the story in this job. Somewhere down the road, it will feed you. On a different note, I am currently attending a culinary school.
O:I saw this on Instagram!
Kaji:At 48 years old, paying to study with a teacher was such a fun thing to do, and I felt young again.
O:Even if I take the time to cook a meal, I eat so much that it disappears quickly... (laughs). (laughs) But it would be nice to be able to enjoy that kind of time as well.
Kaji:I have my own distinct likes and dislikes, and even though we are in the same line of work and each of us is influenced by the other subconsciously, I don't think I can say I like something so easily, just like in love. It takes time to reach the point of liking something that you are particular about. But you are one of my favorite stylists. In that sense, you really like fashion, including the way you eat.
Kaji:I said long ago that your styling is free of calculation. Usually, there is something in between in the expression of styling. What I like about O-kun and myself is that we don't want to be calculating, or rather, we think about various things, but at the end of the day, we want to cut that out. I want to be popular and earn money, but when I am styling, I want to be free, or, to put it more coolly, I want to keep the power in the styling.
O-kun, in a good way, is invisible outside of his styling, or rather, what he likes to do. I don't think he would reveal anything about himself, but knowing him as a stylist, I'm fine with that. By the way, what do you do when you are not working?
O:I am alone a lot and I like sauna , so I guess sauna.
Kaji:I was happy to see you at the late-night film festival the other night. Was that because of a hierarchical relationship? (Laughs).
O:No, no, no (laughs) , I went to quite a few all-night movies.
Kaji:O's styling does not reflect anything as it is, does it? You don't directly show what is probably connected to it, do you? But in fact, do you input some nourishment in some small way?
O:I try to watch a variety of things. I try to watch what others recommend. Especially those that come from people I trust, because there is no harm in watching them.
Kaji:O's personal is pure or clumsy? I don't need to know anything else , because it's interesting as it is. But I think it's a part of the film proposal, so . By the way, before you came here, did you have any experiences, such as a strong impression of a film you saw at a certain time?
O:I didn't have a specific idea of what I was looking for, but as I looked at various outfits, I thought, "Wow, these outfits are amazing. That's how I came to like being a stylist. When I learned that you were working on costumes for a movie, I watched the movie and was amazed. Then I saw Michiko Kitamura's work and thought, "This kind of work is possible.
O:I recently realized something. When I went to one of Mr. Kaji's events, I saw the first two videos and honestly had no idea what was going on in the third video. I was a little sleepy, and suddenly I had a bird's-eye view of the event, and it was amazing to see how everyone was looking at these images. Then I put myself in Mr. Kaji's shoes, and I felt embarrassed that everyone was watching a movie that I liked. What is this feeling?
When I was discussing this with another cameraman, I thought it was not unlike having my playlist played. I thought that the films really brought out the playlist, or rather, leaked it out, and I thought there was a certain order to the films. The third one I wasn't sure about. Films are powerful again, and I could see the color of the person who curated them.
Kaji:When I heard that you were embarrassed about the playlist, I thought, well, I'm not really like that. I'm the kind of person who likes to share what I'm listening to because I think it's good. We are very different as stylists in the same profession, and I think that's what makes us interesting. As with styling, I want to be exposed to movies as well. I don't know if this is consistent with what I said earlier about not being calculating, but I want to increase the intensity of the styling because I want as many people as possible to feel it, and since I am making the film myself. The premise of the styling that O-kun and I work on is different, isn't it?
O:Of course, when you eat something delicious, you want to recommend it to others!
Kaji:Is the styling different , or is it a sanctuary?
O:I'm not so sure about what comes out.
Kaji:This coming August, you will be releasing a styling book that you have been working on since 2019. How does this tie in with what you just said?
O:. That's what I wanted to do so badly. . But this one shot may be the end of that.
Kaji:You didn't put together the styling book with the intention of delivering something, did you?
O:It's really only for me.
Kaji:What does it mean that it will become a book?
O:I wanted to leave a legacy, and I especially wanted young people to see this book. I imagined that it would be interesting if young people saw this book and could do something with the influence of it.
Kaji:There was an entrance for me in becoming a stylist, there was a process, and I want to do something like I am doing now with the next generation, and I want to leave it as a work of art. Those are the two big things.
O:At first it was for my own sake, but there are many young people who are interested in me, like in their mid-20s.
Kaji:When do you often feel this way?
O:When I talked to some of them, I found out that they were really digging for me. I think that's what makes me think about it.
Kaji:Going back to the movie, you said that the costumes that come out are what catch your eye, but I wonder if the visual part of the movie is more important than the story itself.
O:No, not only there.
Kaji:Are there any movies that have been a hit in your opinion in recent years?
O:I also enjoyed the world view of "DUNE". Also, last year or the year before, I saw Takeshi Kitano's all-night movie at Bungeiza in Ikebukuro, Tokyo, and saw three of his films: "That Man is Violent," "3-4XOctober," and "Sonatine. I liked "That Man is Violent" the best and decided to try wearing a suit for the first time. I had never let a movie influence my style of dress before.
Kaji:It was a work that shook your beliefs , your way of life. . other than the visual part of the work, did you feel encouraged? Did you have any other experiences that moved you emotionally?
O:I saw "Shin Kamen Rider" this year, and although Anno-san has been called a lot of things, I thought it was cool. I know he wants to be a masked rider, but he has not abandoned himself at all. That is cool.
Kaji:I've only seen documentaries, but they are interesting because they are also films. You said you watch what is recommended to you, but what kind of films do you watch on your own? In terms of human dramas, "Stand by Me" is generally well-received, but is there a movie that didn't work for you?
O:I prefer the heavier ones, like the ones where life and death are involved . Something that makes me feel like I've been eaten. . . like "American History X" .
Kaji:You resemble the main character, don't you (laughs)? (Laughs.) I guess I like the smell of rawness. I wonder if it's a kind of passion. I guess you don't like movies filled with warmth and happiness, like the ones that make you cry. It's the way he perceives life and death, and even in the mundane, there is death, and in your mind, that's what he likes in terms of images.
I'm not sure if the film I'm proposing should be in line with that or against it. In terms of styling, I have a general idea, but I'm not sure if I should add a hat or shoes. Where is the hat from?
O:This was bought at THE FOUR-EYED in Shinjuku.
Kaji:Come to think of it, O. and hats are inseparable, and so am I. . What do you mean by "hat"?
O:. I sometimes decide from the hat by styling.
Kaji:You have a decision to make from a hat! You're equal to the clothes.
O:What I like about hats is that I like to wear them in the summer or something, sweat, and smell the inside like this (laughs).
Kaji:I know, I do that too. I guess I'm the opposite of you, O. I decide what I'm going to wear, put on my shoes, and then, although there are no specific rules, I put on my hat at the end and it's done. That's all there is to it. I don't have any intention. I just put on the hat at the end and feel at home. If I don't have it on, I don't feel at ease.
Kaji:In light of this, I would like to make a suggestion: Have you ever seen any of Naoto Takenaka's works?
O:I've actually been thinking about it lately .
Kaji:I had heard about a film called "Sanbun Yakusha (The Three-Penny Actor)," and I thought it would be a film that O-kun would never get to see again, so I decided to submit it. I simply put out a film in which Naoto Takenaka plays a real actor named Taiji Tonoyama, who was said to be a great supporting actor. Director Kaneto Shindo, who used Tonoyama-san in a supporting role, had Naoto Takenaka play the role for the dead actor, saying that Tonoyama-san was the main actor at the end of his career. He said that Taiji Tonoyama and O-kun were very similar.
O:(Laughter).
Kaji:There is a reason for the similarity. I feel that O-kun and I are both not very dexterous, and I think that Taiji Tonoyama embodies this, or rather, he is a person who is fulfilling his love and carrying it through all the way to the end. It is a true story, but it is not a true story, and I think that is a genre that can be appreciated by O-kun. I hope you will watch it.
O:Thank you, it looks like I can watch it on U-NEXT .
Kaji:Yeah, I think I'd like that. Thanks for coming in the heat.
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Film "Sanbun Yakusha" (2000)
Director: Kaneto Shindo Cast: Naoto Takenaka, Keiko Oginome, Hideko Yoshida, etc.
Watching "Sanbun Yakusha" (The Three Literary Yakusha)...
I always try to watch films recommended by my friends and seniors as a way of getting to know them. Mr. Kaji is my senior in life, not only as a stylist but also as a man. Watching "Sanbun Yakusha," I wondered why men are so selfish, helpless, and romantic. . coupled with the strength of women. During our hour-long fortune-telling session, I am sure that Mr. Kaji felt my originality and recommended this film to me. I am glad I was born a man . I'm glad I'm a stylist ." (Takashi Oyamada)
Watching "Summer Sister"...
. as Mr. Kaji said, there was something about it that drew a sexy temperature. . I am sure it is the rawness that comes from the pure attitude. . Not only the characters, but also the hand-held photography by the filmmakers. It was just after Okinawa was returned to Japan, and there was a visible mix of cultures in the clothes, streets, and . the relationships between people who are equally at odds with each other. It was a piece where you could find the tugs and overlaps." (MIU)