MINNANO & TOILET are so bad (laughs).
Do you buy used clothes?
Nakatsu River: The only old clothes I have are hats. I don't have clothing in the size I like. I do buy some military items if I am interested in them, but they are just for show.
How do you check fashion?
Nakatsu River: Nowadays, I don't check out magazines on my own initiative. I don't buy clothes from magazines.
Kagami: You select brands that no one knows about yet in "minnano", right? How do you do that?
Nakatsu River: You used to dig with a tumbler.
Kagami: So if you think it's cool, you contact them.
Nakatsu River: Tumblr also has a follow function, so if I find an account that interests me, I check it out. I naturally find a community, and when I make contact with someone, I am introduced to their friends. I still do that on Instagram. There are accounts that have a large number of followers but a limited number of followers. I also see accounts that only comment back to their friends. I start digging from there. The frequency is much less than it used to be.
Kagami: It's still just a little bit of a stretch, isn't it?

MINNANO CUSHION SMALL ¥4,400, MINNANO CUSHION LARGE ¥7,700
You also made a cushion with an "M" in "minnano" this time, didn't you?
Nakatsu River: I also wanted to make this cushion.
The big cushion is the most famous Sepabus product.
Kagami: It's always too big to sell (laughs). But I think this one will definitely sell.
Nakatsu River: It also has a sticker-like print on the back.

Kagami: When you think about it, "MINNANO & TOILET" is a bad idea (laughs). (Laughs.) Can you tell that it's a collaboration with "SEPABUS"?
Nakatsu River: I think you'll recognize the tonmana in that logo because it's been followed.