I hope something new will be born through the suppression of Corona. (Kagami)
I sometimes wonder if what I do in my daily life is an anti-virus measure or if I'm just trying to look good in the eyes of the public.
Kagami: It's no longer a public figure.
Hirayama: That's right!
Kagami: I wonder how much preparation went into creating this situation.
Are we talking about the ruling class again (laughs)?
All: LOL!
Subject Office: What have you started this year?

Kagami: I've started stretching. My back hurts.
Nakamura: I don't have any. What about you, Hima?
Hirayama: Baking cookies and so on.
Nakamura: That's what you did!
All: LOL!
Hirayama: I baked it twice and stopped.
Kagami: What were those young kids doing? You can't even display them, there's no place to appeal to them.
Nakamura: I think they are doing what they can while exploring various options.
I think more and more people are starting YouTube channels.
Nakamura: I knew you are looking for a place to transmit like that.
Hirayama: Kagami-san, how about YouTube?
Kagami: I'll do it at work next time.
Hirayama: I was in virtual denial so much at the beginning!

All: LOL!
Kagami: I'm not presenting any work. I'm doing it as part of a collaboration with a company.
Do you usually watch programs created by YouTubers?
Kagami: I don't see much.
Hirayama: I do watch videos from the past, though.
Kagami: Videos from the 80's are interesting, especially commercials and rakugo.
Hirayama: I have been watching Ultra Quiz lately.
I remember when you used to be more extreme in your expressions.
Kagami: They don't care about compliance. Nowadays, compliance is a heavy burden on everything, so even if you try to do something interesting, you can't do it.
Subject Office: Broadcast writer Takasu-san said something similar on YouTube. He said, "YouTube today is also a bit shady, but I don't know what will happen in the future.
Hirayama: Yes, maybe it will be regulated in the future.
Kagami: Lately, I've been interested in 80's commercials and copywriting, so I've been buying and reading books by Shigesato Itoi and Toru Kawasaki, and that era is still interesting. It was a bubble economy, so budgets were plentiful and people were doing whatever they wanted to do. We were kids at the time, so we watched these films casually, but when I look at them now, they seem so new to me. Of course, there was no CG, it was very analog, and the ideas were interesting. It is an expression that could not be done with 100% even if they tried now.
Hirayama: You can see them on YouTube. There is a Nissin commercial where a woman dances with a cup of noodles while hiding her boobs, and it is very interesting.

Nakamura: Hima, did you search for "boobs"?
All: LOL!
Hirayama: I don't remember how I got there. Before I found it, I was watching a commercial for takoyaki ramen. It's really good too.
Hirayama: Dump Truck Matsumoto is on, and the truck pulls into a ramen shop, but that's just interesting.
Nakamura: You searched for "dump boobs."
All: LOL!
Hirayama: Dump Matsumoto, I honestly thought it was cute (laughs). That era was still good.
Kagami: I like the way you describe it.
Hirayama: That's because the technology available is limited, so the approach in giving shape to ideas is straightforward; they wouldn't have thought of using CG, and that's why there are parts that are not well thought out, and perhaps that's what makes them interesting.
Kagami: Nowadays, everything is available, and we try to make it perfect.
Subject Office: Some things are lost by becoming more convenient, aren't they?
Kagami: Yes, we are thinking less and less about it. Nowadays, the priority is to sell products, so the focus has shifted to practical matters. They use only popular celebrities.
Hirayama: Think of the world.
Kagami: You can't do anything interesting that way.
Hirayama: I think the reason we live in such a world is because of the development of social networking.
Kagami: From the 50's to the 70's, there was the Vietnam War, and people were oppressed. After that, the arts exploded, and cool art and music were born. Then came the interesting expressions of the 80's. I know you can't compare it to the war. I know it's not comparable to the war, but it would be nice if something new was born through the oppression of Corona.
Nakamura: I wonder if something will change after Corona settles down? Now that we can meet face to face, it would be nice if we could do what we can there.
It's hard to know when that will happen.

Hirayama: It looks like it will still go on as long as their goals are not met.
Kagami: Hima, you're still talking about the ruling class! I'm done with that!
All: LOL!