Now I think reality is getting weirder and more interesting than art. (Title.)
Kagami: But you can't watch too much TV or social networking sites. It's dangerous to take that information for granted.
Hirayama: The Go To campaign may or may not do it, and the situation changes from time to time.
I guess in the end you have to judge for yourself what is the truth.
Kagami: It really is.
Subject Office: The world is changing so much, but I don't think I have changed at all.
Hirayama: I even started wearing a mask. I don't want to be mistaken for someone if I walk down the street without a mask, and I also feel that I wear a mask to avoid trouble.
Kagami: In short, you're just trying to look good in the eyes of the public, right?
Hirayama: Yes, it is. There is a lot of peer pressure, isn't there?
Kagami: You feel that strongly after the Corona disaster, don't you?

Nakamura: I don't think it's a good idea to be overly concerned about it. I wear a mask just like I use an umbrella when it rains, but I wear a mask because it is the corona season.
Kagami: I envy George because he always has a flat perspective. He understands the feelings of those who are concerned about Corona, and he also understands our doubts about it.
Hirayama: I would look at it from an angle.
Kagami: Hima, you have both. Sometimes he looks at things from an angle, and sometimes, like George, he looks at things from a flat perspective. I think that's why the three of us have a good balance.
So each has its own unique flavor.
Kagami: Yes, yes. Each person has his/her own unique way of thinking, which is interesting. It would be boring if everyone was the same.
Nakamura: There is no right answer.
Kagami: I guess so. I think I will spend my whole life not knowing what is right.
Do you feel the urge to create a work based on this situation?
Kagami: There were people like that at the time of 3.11. I don't think there is anything wrong with that, but I don't think I would do it myself. It is necessary to keep it in one's mind as a record, but I don't think that I would try to express it as art.
I see.
Kagami: But because it is a time like this, I feel that the mood of the art world is that we have to express that. That can lead to recognition. However, in my opinion, it is more interesting to create works that are unexplained because we don't know what is going to happen in the future.
Hirayama: I am of the same opinion. I would like to continue to do what we have been doing so far.
Subject Office: A magazine asked me to show them the photos I took during the period of self-restraint, but in the end, nothing had changed.
Kagami: I think that's fine. It's amazing that people change because of that. Everyone around us hasn't changed.
Subject Office: I think it is just a hook or a trigger. I have a feeling that in the long run, that piece won't be much of a thing. But there are more than a few people who would go along with that one.
Kagami: Making art out of this situation is already the answer, isn't it? I think it's fine to have such works, but I would like to do something more mysterious. I am simply attracted to such things.
Hirayama: After all, using Corona as a subject is just like an art assignment in elementary school. You know, "Don't ignore traffic lights," or something like that.

Subject Office: I think that nowadays, reality is becoming stranger and more interesting than art. For example, eating a meal while wearing a mask. Things have been reversed.
Hirayama: It may be true.
Subject Office: What the artists have projected as interesting is now becoming a reality.
Kagami: But there's a tendency not to be able to tease people about it in a funny way. That's why peer pressure has become so powerful. You know those acrylic boards on TV that stand between the performers? That would normally be a gag. Once upon a time, people would have said, "What the hell is this? But nowadays, you can't say that. But now, you can't say that.
I see the acrylic panels when I watch a comic strip.
Hirayama: If you think about it calmly, that's already a gag.

Kagami: It would be interesting if there was an acrylic board when we waited for the comedians to come out, and when they came out (laughs).
The world is really full of contradictions.
Kagami: Of course, no one says, "I'm glad I became a Corona! I'm so glad to be a Corona!
Nakamura: On a positive note, I felt grateful for everyday life. Just seeing friends once in a while makes me happy.
Hirayama: It is true that we used to meet as a matter of course.
Subject Office: I liked empty downtown areas.
Hirayama: And there are no more tourists from abroad.
Kagami: I guess in a way, a lot of things have flattened out.
It seems to have had a positive impact on the earth's natural environment.
Nakamura: You say the air quality has improved.
Kagami: But I'm worried that this kind of situation will continue for a long time to come, and that restraint and restrictions will be strengthened. Because this situation has only recently come about, right? The world is changing at an incredible speed.
I know we're talking about masks again, but you can't really tell what a girl looks like either. You see a girl and think, "Cute! and vice versa. Such sensations are human instincts. But I think it's dangerous for a living being to have such sensations blocked by a mask.
Hirayama: I wonder if it is getting harder for young people to fall in love. There was a story like that in "Laughing Sellerman. There was a girl wearing a mask, but when she took it off, she actually looked terrible, like a slit-mouthed woman.

Nakamura: The punchline is easy to understand, but I wonder why it sounds interesting when Hima-kun speaks (laughs).
All: LOL!
Hirayama: Well, that is really extreme.
Nakamura: But I have a feeling that the younger kids are enjoying themselves in their own way. There are restrictions, but they seem to be enjoying themselves in their own ways.