. the similarities with the Allbirds that I felt when I ran in Kamikatsu-cho.
Thank you for your time today! Frankly speaking, how was it?
Yamamoto:It was stiff.
Enomoto:That was stiff - I'm sorry. I know it must be tough, but this is the way it should be done.
Yamamoto:Being in Tokyo, both sustainability and SDGs sound a little too neat, but it was a bit refreshing to see them firmly established as a system.
Enomoto:Indeed. Such words are usually seen as marketing words, but Kamikatsu-cho is doing it for real.

Yamamoto:I think " Allbirds" is similar there.
What do you mean?
Enomoto:. It's a brand that was started with the idea of making something that is thoroughly environmentally friendly.
Yamamoto:It's just that the momentum has only grown since then, and " Allbirds" has always been thoroughly environmentally conscious. It's not about marketing or anything like that.
Please tell us again about the comfort and wearability of "Allbirds".

Enomoto:I've always worn run shoes, but they are nice. They are comfortable, but as I mentioned earlier, what I like most about them is that they don't look like run shoes. I love that I can wear them anywhere and still be able to run. Apparel is all about "feeling good. I think that's all that matters. Carbon footprint and recycled materials are important, but people drink beer because it tastes good, and they wear it simply because it feels good.

Yamamoto:No doubt about it . And I also like the color. It's not the color of sportswear, so it's easy to use in everyday life. . This beer is really good, by the way.