In a way, this is a victim's group.
Which do you tend to use more, photography or writing?
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Hmmm. A bit more writing, I guess. I'm a photographer, basically.
rockHey, I completely forgot about that. I completely forgot about that.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)It has decreased. But now, I really can't miss you, Mr. Ishida. I feel like I have to keep writing, and I feel like I should concentrate a little bit.
I think you mentioned in your book that you took up writing instead of photography, which you have been doing for a long time, because it is stronger?
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)It's more communicative ...... I guess. I feel like you have an incredible desire to communicate.
rockWhat is it? The desire to communicate.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Oh, but, you know, I think it was because I was very lonely.
rockOriginally?
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Yup. When I was at home, I felt like I had no allies in my family. So I was very envious of the fact that I was close with my mother.
rockAny siblings?
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)I have an older brother, but he is 9 years older than me.
rockWell, then, hey.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Yeah. Almost like an only child.
rockDad is air.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Yes, yes, yes.
rockDad, how much air is air? You work and come home and soooo?
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Yes. I'm a hobbyist.
rockCan't you get me involved in this?
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)We used to go to see ballet and orchestra together. I loved music so much that I would build a soundproof room and lock myself in.
rockThat seems to think it's a child distraction.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Yes, yes. I know you will.
rockI'm scared. Precision instruments, if they are broken.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)He is an audiophile and loves records. But it was my father who rented me movies and CDs. I think that was a good thing.
rockDad, why don't you read (Uemoto's book)?
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Well, it seems like you're reading something, though.
rockNo comment?
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)No comment. Yup. No comment. No, it's scary. When Mr. Iwai told me that his father came to see the show. I thought it was really scary.
rockIt was unannounced.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Oh, I'm scared.
rockWhen you are in a place where you are not supposed to be, and there is a person who is not supposed to be there, you don't know at first. It takes a while for the layers to overlap, and then you think, "Oh, who is that? It took a while for the layers to overlap, and then I thought, "It's my father! And then, "Oh, it's my father! He came up to me with a grin on his face.
Did you notice that after the show?
rockAfter the show.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)How did you like it? Ha?
rockSo I thought, oh no. I thought, "This is just like my father. I thought, "That's so moronic. Then he came up to me with a grin and said, "Oh no, I didn't get it at all. At that moment, I thought, "What? I thought to myself. I thought to myself, "I have to tell him the most. But if my father had said, "Oh, that's me," he wouldn't have gone to such lengths in the first place. Then I wondered why I was doing this, but in the end, I thought that in a sense, this could be called a victim's group.
all of us(Laughter).
rockOr the reserve army. Including myself, "There's a chance we'll end up like that, aren't we? I think we have to accept them as a reserve army, as if we are inoculating ourselves against them.
I used to have a character from the early days of the theater company who was an incredible fascist director. There are quite a few outrageous directors in the theater world. One of the funniest things that happened in college was that the director threw a slipper at (one of the students) with a bang and said, "You need to get that through your thick skull!" I was an assistant director. I was an assistant director, so I was watching him and wondering what he was going to do. I was an assistant director, so I was watching him and wondered what he was going to do. Then I thought, "Oh, he said that again.
After rehearsals that day, we had a launch party, and the director said, "Iwai, did you hear?" The director said, "Iwai, did you hear? I said, "Yes, what is it?" I said, "I told you today that you need to understand it from my own experience, right? You should understand that. He was really drunk on his own words. I thought, "This is not good. That's why I couldn't take my eyes off him. The atmosphere was outrageous, but I kept thinking that if the audience surrounded him, they would definitely laugh.
After I got out of college, I began to think to myself that I could write as many lines as I wanted about this director as I kept writing about how excited I was by his motifs. That means there is a part of me that is like that, and I think it is probably my father. There were a lot of mysterious quotes like that in our house. When I was young, he would say things like, "I stuck something in my leg to study (so I wouldn't fall asleep)," or "My sister is coughing up blood from tuberculosis in the next room. Then one day he said, "I put my own asshole back in my own asshole every morning, every morning! and I cried and said, "You know what? Later I asked my mother and she said it was just a prolapse.
all of us(Laughter).
rockIt's amazing that you think you've let people know what you've been through in that episode, and that it's even cathartic. ...... In other words, I wrote that kind of description of the father. When he came to see the show, I thought he would get the message. ......
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)I am sure that he/she cannot understand it. But I realized that I had written it because I wanted it to be conveyed and understood. But I realized that I wanted people to understand what I was writing, and that's why I was writing. That's how it all started.
rockIf I said, "Well, I don't want to stop," I would say, "I don't want to stop at all. I would like to talk about it with many people, and if they say, "No, my family was the same way," I would like to know more about it. I am glad that my mother was not a nuisance. She was like my only friend.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)That was a great motif. （It was like "You're the only one who doesn't sing karaoke" (in "Te").
rockThat must be "the Japan".
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Yes. I was very unhappy. And my mom was like, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I thought I could understand.
rockI once jumped out of the car and ran away when my father said, "Let's go to karaoke with the family. I thought for sure he would not do that. My brother is the most beaten up in my family. I saw him come up the stairs covered in blood after being beaten to a pulp with a wooden sword. He was told to sit on his haunches all night long. I wondered how my brother digested that, even though he must have resented it the most.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)You can't allow this kind of thing to happen.
rockYes, I have no idea how my brother views my works. So I have no idea how my brother views my works.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Are you coming to see the show?
rockThe "Te" came by accident, didn't it? It came unannounced at this time, too.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)Oh nooooo.
rockIn the play, the brother is portrayed in a very good light. I also took most of the plot from reality, but to enhance the effect a little, I made the brother in the first half a little worse than he actually is, and the brother in the second half a little nicer than he actually is. So it's not supposed to be realistic, but when one of the performers asked me, "How real is your brother? The actor asked, "How true is your brother?" and the brother simply replied, "Well, to be honest, my brother has been watching me very carefully. I thought, "Oh, come on.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)From the top.
rockThat was soooo over the top.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)It's strange.
rockI don't know what I'm doing anymore.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)But I really think that the majority of people don't face it and let it pass them by. I'm caught up with these people, and they show their dislike for me.
rockI think it is necessary to include disgust. I think it's not good if you don't include things that are terrible.
garden bonfire (esp. one held on the imperial grounds)There is a kind of family illusion. It's really easy for everyone to get into the place where they think family should be like this. They never delve into how they really feel. They just trace it out. I wonder if it is not hard for them to do that.