. I wrote it in such an in-depth way that I don't even do it in my own work.
-Before this interview, we asked you to fill out a questionnaire, and we felt that Jinmenusagi seems to have a lot of financial frustration with the industry and other aspects of the business.
Jinmenusagi: That questionnaire, I believe I wrote it when I was very frustrated (laughs). In a world with the kind of things we were just talking about, the work of creating something to be published in a broad sense is risky and difficult just to sustain. But now that I've written quite a bit of detail in this piece, it's refreshing to see the opposite.
-From your point of view, WONK, do you have any favorite phrases?
Ezaki: That's the sound of him playing the abacus. Sounds like he's playing the abacus. The risks I avoided like looking for friendship" , etc. are quite realistic.
Inoue: From our perspective as creators, we are very interested in what the people who are trying to make their works commercially viable think about this. I think there are an infinite number of artists who buy views and followers in order to make a quick start, but I have never actually talked to them about it face to face. I think it's bad that no one is talking about it and no one is saying anything about it.
Ezaki: Yes, that's right . Also, you know how the number of followers determines the amount of money for various things? I think that's really bad.
Jinmenusagi: It is important to open up and look inside properly, whether you have an artist with 300,000 followers and only 100 of those followers come to your show, or an artist with only 30,000 followers but 1,000 followers come to your show.
Arata: Okay ... , this is turning into a great industry criticism (laughs).
Ezaki: It is understandable from a structural point of view that many artists make their major debuts and buy followers and views for all of them, and if they hit even one of them, they can collect. From an economic point of view, yes, but, again, from the point of view of someone who is doing something cultural, it feels very strange.
Inoue: I think you should make it clear. We do it because we want to be heard by as many people as possible, and we do it to make money, but the songs are good, too, aren't they? But the songs are good, too, right? . Because that is the right thing to do as an economic activity. But I don't want to mislead people who are listening without lifting the lid on it.
Jinmenusagi: You don't say it because you really believe deep down that it is cooler to attract people based on merit or charisma.
-I agree. For artists it is stronger.... What would you like your stance to be in such a situation?
Jinmenusagi: I would like to know where the best place to buy followers is.
All: (Laughter).
Inoue: It is a very small amount, but as someone who is involved in economic activities, I do not have the confidence to say that this is a bad thing. I think everyone in this day and age has a sense of crisis, and I worry about it every day.
Jinmenusagi: Lately I have been behaving badly towards people. When it is obvious that the other person is wrong, I make my displeasure known or the other way around. We live in a world where you have to say you don't like what you don't like to be able to survive. . I think it's not only about honesty or good stories, but also about the stress that I can't stand.
. - I feel that the song this time played a significant role as a forum for venting such feelings.
Jinmenusagi: I wrote it in such an in-depth way that I don't even do it in my own work, so I think it's realistic and I hope listeners will enjoy it.
Ezaki: WONK has a sound-oriented way of making music, as if we are OK as long as it sounds cool, so in some aspects, we are not always strong. But working with Jinmenusagi this time, I think we were able to create songs with more power.
Inoue: I hope you will listen to this song with a smile on your face.
Jinmenusagi: We will express ourselves properly , and everyone should listen with a smile.
