OTONA TRUCK, S.T,N.E. About furniture created by an overwhelming inclination toward comfort.

Kise: As you can see in the book I published this time, I made a Porsche out of paper during summer vacation in my fourth year of elementary school, so I guess I liked making things. I also helped my father, who was not very dexterous, make a slipper stand, paint the house, and prune the trees in the yard. In junior high school I looked at a map and took the train to go black bass fishing, and in high school I traveled to Hokkaido on a motorcycle. In high school, I traveled to Hokkaido on a motorcycle. In those days, there were no cell phones, so I had to ask strangers for directions along the way, and I had to talk with them and use my intuition to know which way to go.

Kise: I am now 57 years old. I rarely do such things, but when I look back on my life, I realize that I have lived only on curiosity and energy. But I don't have a plan. I move as soon as I feel like it. For example, when I was in high school, I was curious about the music in Haruki Murakami's novel and wanted to listen to it even if I had to go to several record rental stores because I couldn't listen to it on the Internet as I can now. If there was a story about a book that came out or a book that interested him, he would call to see if it was available, and if he found it, he would go there immediately. Come to think of it, I once called Mutsugoro's place, though I don't remember what I asked him (laughs). (laughs). That's how much I want to confirm what I'm interested in, so I act immediately. That is how I have lived my life, and it hasn't changed.

Kise: This is an interesting story. When I was building my "Adult Truck" house and remodeling the store to create a white space, the second floor of Takashi Kumagai's house in Tokyo was completely white. I was surprised to see it in a magazine and thought, "Oh, this! I was so surprised. I was just thinking about creating a white space, and I realized that Kumagai-san felt the same way. I don't know if it's the star cycle or something else, but we feel the same things at the same time.

One day after the store space was completed, Mr. Kumagai suddenly came to Osaka and contacted me. I invited him to come and see it, and he was so moved that he told me in two long sentences on his Instagram. What made me most happy was when he wrote, "Kise-san has not stopped, we are moving forward" (original text in Japanese). The white space was just a natural progression for me, but I did my research and came up with the idea that "this is the way things are going now. I didn't research and follow the "current trend" or anything like that. I have never done anything like that.

Kise: That's right. It's ridiculous, isn't it? I made furniture, took pictures, and even wrote articles. I think to myself, "How did you do it? I made this book in three months. I wanted to make a booklet for the exhibition, and I happened to know the Vancouver design team "FACULTY," so I asked them to do the website and the booklet, and this is what came out of it. I'm not a stylist or anything, but I gathered up everything in my house and took pictures (laughs). I also wrote all the text myself. (laughs) But I really like writing.

Kise: Thank you. It's fun. （I bought a computer to write "TRUCK NEST" (previously published), my friend Kentaro, a chef, said, "You should definitely write it yourself," so I decided to give it a try and bought a computer. I'm the type of person who starts from form. I heard that Haruki Murakami writes a full-length story from 4:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m., and I thought that sounded cool. I was also writing from 5:00 a.m. on a dark winter morning with quiet piano music playing. I felt like a writer and had a lot of fun (laughs). But while I was waiting for my lunch order, I flipped open a copy of Yoshio Kataoka's book on the bookshelf at "Bird" (a cafe attached to TRUCK), and within a few lines, I was hit hard. and I had to rewrite it again (laughs). (Laughs.) But in this way, I learned for the first time that writing is fun. This time, I am already excited about writing (laughs).

Kise: In 1998 or thereabouts, there was a period when I started TRUCK by myself, and then one more person joined...and so on. At first, I was concerned about everything. I would say things like, "You should pay for the wood chips there," or "That's the way you put it. I think it was hard on the person being told what to do. But as the number of workers increased, I got used to being in charge, and those who were in charge felt a sense of responsibility, and it was fun. One thing I will never forget is when I finished shaving the back of a chair I was prototyping, and just when I thought it was looking good, he sat down and said, "I think it should be a little bigger. For a moment, I was like, "What? (laugh), but then I thought, "Yes, that's true," and I made it again, and it was better. So, I always want to be soft.

Kise: When people around me say something, I immediately adopt it and do it (laughs). (Laughs.) Instead of being adamant that this is the way to go, I just say, "Why don't you give it a try? It is always an experiment.

Kise: It is interesting and fun, isn't it? It is fun to make something, and it is also fun to hear what people think when they see it. When people say things to me that I didn't think they would say, I think, "Oh, I made a pretty good product. When the reception was over, I could finally sleep for the first time in years (laughs). I had been waking up in the middle of the night and thinking in circles. Everyone said, "Don't worry, people will definitely come," but I was really nervous. Now that people have seen it and said it's good, I feel like I've finally made something good. I don't know what will happen from here, but that is the biggest thing.