【TBSJ] Human recipe.Recipe 1 Tsune Nagasaka (Schema Architectural Planning)
Biryani to eat with beer on the riverbank in the evening.

Toba:Yes, I will study it once. The definition of that dish is the most important. I once had too little basil in my Gapao rice, and a Thai guy said to me, "This is not Gapao rice!" I was once told by a Thai person, "This is not gapao rice! So when it comes to food with a history, I study the history and then think about what I would do now. So for today's biryani, I look at the existing recipe and add a little oil when I boil the basmati rice to make it more crispy. In this way, I add my own twist from the existing history.

Toba:But isn't it the same with architecture? I think you have to know about old Japanese houses and so on to be able to do it. The project in Onomichi (LLOVE HOUSE ONOMICHI, a 110-year-old wooden house to be renovated and revitalized as a new facility, scheduled to open this fall), which you have been crowdfunding until recently, is a Japanese house, isn't it? It will open this fall) is also a very Japanese house, isn't it? If we were to suddenly get our hands on it without knowing about it, we would probably end up in a lot of trouble.

Nagasaka:That's right. I can say I don't know most things, but I will be taught and understand as I go along.

Toba:I also input information as I go along. So, I really enjoy learning about things I don't know. I was very excited when I made a prototype of biryani. I heard that even if the curry is very tasty at the curry making stage, it may be too light or salty when it is cooked. I also heard that too much water can also be a no-no, so I gave a lot of thought to making it dry and fluffy. I learned a lot, and it was such a good food that I will put this knowledge to good use in my next course.

Nagasaka:That was great. I'm so happy.

Toba:I think that is the beauty of this human recipe. I think it is worth doing something that is like the starting point for a chef, which is to make sure that people eat delicious food. It's like a mother making food for her child, and I think that's the most loving thing you can do.

Nagasaka:In my work, whether it is a store or a house, I talk with the person, and if I find something interesting, I listen to what he or she has to say and think about how we can work together to create it. I feel that any building is created by people and people together.

Toba:In that sense, I guess we are similar in that neither Chang nor I can create something without a target audience.