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Susumu Shibukawa's Champagne at Night or in the Room. vol.02 How about Sepabus, Hasegawa-kun? (Part 1)
Midnight Sunglasses at The Room

A glass of champagne at night or in your room at Susumu Shibukawa's.
vol.02 Hasegawa-kun, how do you like Sepabus? (Part 1)

SEPARATE BATH & TOILET, directed by the mysterious Susumu Shibukawa, is now in its third season. As such, we are pleased to bring you another interview with a guest. The guest of interest is Akio Hasegawa, a well-known stylist for "AH.H". He is not only a fashion visualist, but also has a great deal of experience in directing a wide range of products, and is a man who has a great deal to say about manufacturing as well. Let's have the two of them talk seriously about fashion. Let's get started... , what is it? It was not Mr. Shibukawa who entered the room, but Ken Kagami.

PROFILE

Ken Kagami

Born in 1974 . Born in Tokyo. He has released drawings, sculptures, and other works, and has participated in numerous art exhibitions both in Japan and abroad. He also actively collaborates with apparel brands, and his own "Strange Store" in Daikanyama offers T-shirts and other goods of his own creation.
Instagram:@kenkagami

PROFILE

Akio Hasegawa

Born in 1975 . Stylist and fashion director . After studying under Yoshiyuki Kitao while in college, he became an independent stylist/writer . in 2012, he relaunched "POPEYE" and served as its fashion director until 2018. Currently, he directs "AH.H", which is produced with "HOUYHNHNM", while starting a new media called "CAHLUMN" at the end of this month, as well as opening his own store called "andreM hoffwann".
Instagram:@stylistakiohasegawa

I thought that Hasegawa-kun would definitely be the best person to have a dialogue with.

Is Mr. Shibukawa off today?

Kagami: . Shibukawa is me. I've been wearing a wig and a lot of sunglasses, and I've been doing it for a long time, but it's getting tedious. I mean, you know Ken Kagami is doing it, right? So I decided it was time to move on (laughs).

Hasegawa: (Laughter).

Kagami: I'm going to keep the character of Shibukawa around a bit in the future, though.

. We started off with an exposition, but let's get back on track. This time, we are going to have a conversation with Mr. Hasegawa , and we are going to talk seriously about fashion.

Kagami: I've been wanting to talk to Hasegawa-kun for a long time. We've exchanged a few messages on Instagram, but this is the first time we've talked slowly like this.

Hasegawa: . yes, I know. "Strange store. and I even go there sometimes.

Kagami: I remember you came to see me once in a while when I was working on "Popeye" or something. I thought that Hasegawa would be the best person to talk with this time. You don't get to talk to my type very often, do you?

Hasegawa: I don't know if I'd take the dialogue in the first place. It's a pain in the ass.

How long have you known each other?

Hasegawa: Kagame and I have known each other since we were assistants. I used to see you walking around with a big bag, and we used to run into each other at returns.

Kagami: Oh yeah . I used to see them around town.

Hasegawa: Then, after graduating from the assistant position, Kagami suddenly became an artist. Didn't you make a rake in the beginning?

Kagami: You remember it well! I'd forgotten that myself , that's for sure.

Hasegawa: He said he was going to be an artist, and for the first time in my life I met someone like that, so I was like, "How does an artist live?" . I simply wondered (laughs).

Kagami: My teacher, Baba (Keisuke), asked me, "What are you going to do after you quit?" Baba (Keisuke) asked me, "What are you going to do when you quit? He laughed when I said, "I'm going to become an artist!

All: (Laughter).

Kagami: He said, "What are you talking about, we are all artists.

Hasegawa: That's kind of deep.

Kagami: Yes, it's deep . When he said that to me, I thought, "That's a nice thing to say. He told me to go for it, but I didn't know what to do with myself.

Hasegawa: When I started my own business, I too wondered, "How am I going to do my job?" I thought, "How am I going to work from now on?

Kagami: It's like being Superman (laughs).

Hasegawa: It really is.

Kagami: And in those days . Nowadays, anyone can become one. It's easy to communicate.

Hasegawa: There are plenty of people who want to paint pictures. . . In those days, the society was more rigid, so there were no such people.

People who wanted to become stylists also had a different kind of enthusiasm than they do now.

Kagami: In my case, I was an assistant for 6 years, and it's like I'm back to zero again.

What made you decide to become a stylist in the first place?

Kagami: When I was in my third year of junior high school or first year of high school, I was browsing through a magazine called "Takarajima" or something like that. There was a column on denim styles of various celebrities, and Baba-san was in it among the celebrities and models. He was wearing Levis® denim, an MA-1 or rider's jacket, and black-rimmed glasses with a smooth head. I thought that was really cool. I did some research and found out that he also styled Mokkun (Masahiro Motoki). His costume for Kohaku was amazing, and you could see his ass, and he was wearing what looked like a condom necklace. I thought, "This guy is so funny," and sent him a letter when I was a student. So I was more interested in Baba than in becoming a stylist, because I admired him.

I see. So you were attracted to expressions that broke down stereotypes from that time.

Kagami: . yes, yes. I used to buy "i-D" and "FACE" every month and look at them. Baba-san was like that. Ray Petrie, Buffalo, and so on . There was no one else in Japan doing that kind of styling.

What made you decide to become a stylist?

Hasegawa: . When I was a freshman or sophomore in high school, I saw "Popeye" (POPEYE) and learned about the profession of a stylist.

Kagami: It's Mr. Kitao (Yoshiyuki), isn't it?

Hasegawa: . yes. So I wrote a letter, like .

Kagami: Then we're exactly the same.

Hasegawa: It was a college-affiliated high school, so at the time I was planning to go to college. . but my grades were so bad that I thought I had no choice but to become a stylist, but it just so happened that the evaluation process changed and I was able to go to college. So I went to college, but it ended up being boring, so I sent a letter saying that I still wanted to be a stylist, and I started working as an assistant during my sophomore year of college.

Kagami: How long have you been an assistant?

Hasegawa: About four and a half years .

Kagami: At that time, many people went independent after about two and a half years, so Hasegawa-kun is one of the long-timers.

Kagami-san, you have been here for 6 years, right?

Kagami: Yes . I'm graduating from elementary school!

All: (Laughter).

Kagami: I worked hard until the 6th grade, but I didn't end up being a stylist, and everyone told me it was new (laughs).

Hasegawa: After 6 years, maybe I don't want to do anything anymore. I see too many things.

INFORMATION

SEPARATE BATH&TOILET

https://sepabath.com/

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